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Apr 29, 2024,15:02 PM
 

Some interesting observations Alex thanks. ☀️

For clarity, I’ll respond inline >>

1) I don't like the movement (size, looks, technology and winding feel)
>>yes, the movement is smaller and a common gripe amongst GP fans across models. However, it is the ultra slim and more famous movement that was developed specifically for GP in 1993 (the 3100 at least. This is an updated version the 3300). What is in the 42 mm is the 1800 that was developed for JDR. When JDR was shut down by Kering, the movement started to be used by GP. It is less “pure” for me. And was used is many cheaper watches. As we know JDR was the entry level for Sowind. GP was the higher end. And the movement used by VC, MB&F etc was was the 3100 and not the 1800. It’s slimmer. So I’m a purist when it comes to GP.

2) looking at the dial:
- the date is too small
>> I like it small. Smaller the better. It’s there but not. No date even better 😄
- the indices are too small
>> more elegant and thinner. Same for the logo.
- the (even) smaller index that the date crashed into doesn't work
>> doesn’t bother me.

- the GP logo is too small
>> I really like the smaller logo. In fact, a gripe often heard is that the GP logo is too big on the 42 mm
- the minute hand is too long, reaching into the periphery instead of pointing to it, barely touching
>> again, I like it this way. More elegant and less “stumpy” (which is a criticism of the 42 mm) hands.

As a matter of fact, exactly these points were all addressed when creating the 42...so for me that is the one.
>> that’s like saying the 5402 royal oak has this or that problem in looks. For me provenance and rarity is far more important. Most of your comments are subjective. The size and feel of the 42 mm is far more “rugged” and this was a decision made because the 38 mm was to address more elegance. For me, the 41 mm is the combination of both 38 mm and 42 mm. They made the 42 mm and it’s changes in size and such to address the masses. Not because they were “improvements” as you say.

Only the wearing comfort on smaller wrist is a problem there, where the 41 can of course score. Well well...
>> far better fit for the 41 mm across a broader range of wrist sizes.

Of course this is highly subjective and I guess many would see it the other way around.
>> yes agree subjective. The 41 mm is the father to the mass produced 42 mm. That will always be. Just as the 8010 is the grandfather.

AP 5402 RO, no hacking seconds. 15202 RO no hacking seconds. The 15500 41 mm has hacking seconds. Which has more historical value …? Which had more produced now and in the future.

The main purpose of my post was to show folks how much more rare the 41 mm is. I think it’s also a better size with better proportions. The polished bezel indicates its “special-ness”.

If one didn’t care anything about provenance, rarity and such, then they should certainly choose what size and such they like better. As a collector, I prefer rare over mass produced. Probably why I’ve not bought a Rolex in over 25 years of collecting. 😄

Best wishes,

Marc


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41 mm Laureato anniversary 225 ref 81000 … details

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : April 29th, 2024-11:10
Friends, Some more pics of a special laureato. The ref 81000 225th anniversary laureato. Limited edition of 225 pieces made. Released in 2016, this is the laureato that is the “father” to ALLL the current production laureatos. The 41 mm is a thinner watch...  

That is a very rare watch!

 
 By: iceheller 1945 ✌️ : April 29th, 2024-11:56
#0! I like the red background as well.😆

😜 thanks

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : April 29th, 2024-14:34
You noticed the 000 A little bit special yes

The case-bracelet Integration looks nice indeed...

 
 By: RayStantzPhD : April 29th, 2024-12:09
... however if I had to judge, the following points would bother me with the 41 (believe it or not, perhaps it's a 'ex post' view but I really feel that way): 1) I don't like the movement (size, looks, technology and winding feel) 2) looking at the dial: ... 

Responses below …

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : April 29th, 2024-15:02
Some interesting observations Alex thanks. ☀️ For clarity, I’ll respond inline >> 1) I don't like the movement (size, looks, technology and winding feel) >>yes, the movement is smaller and a common gripe amongst GP fans across models. However, it is the u... 

Thanks for your detailed answer Marc! Really appreciate it!

 
 By: RayStantzPhD : April 30th, 2024-06:19
What you said is actually true for me: 'that’s like saying the 5402 royal oak has this or that problem in looks'... yes, yes it absolutely has in my opinion So I think the current version of the 39 Jumbo is better looking. I also think that the current ve... 

🤝 different approaches

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : April 30th, 2024-07:04
Ditto. I enjoy these type of conversations that give rise to alternative POVs. I especially like when we take objective views and highlight when it’s subjective. So, I’ve seen collecting evolve into flex shows and where some folks call themselves collecto... 

Welcome 😃

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : April 29th, 2024-14:34

Looking good!

 
 By: Aquaracer1 : April 29th, 2024-19:56
And a nice alternative to the 42 mm. Who do you have to know to score “000/225??” 🙂

Thanks ☀️ that’s my main point …

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : April 30th, 2024-01:55
To let folks know that they have an alternative between the 38 mm and the 42 mm. Just got lucky with the 000/225 ☺️

Thanks G ☀️

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : April 30th, 2024-07:07

Thanks D ☀️

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : April 30th, 2024-07:06

Great looking Laureato. For a second had the impression

 
 By: hora12reborn : April 30th, 2024-21:25
the bracelet had no central link as the cloth seems to shine through😄

😀 shiny shiny… I know what you mean

 
 By: SingaporeMarc : May 1st, 2024-09:14
With those reflections.